Curse

Lonesamurai · Feb 20, 2007, 07:37 AM // 07:37

heroes deserve thier share of the loot!

/notsigned to not sharing with heroes and hench

freekedoutfish · Feb 20, 2007, 09:25 AM // 09:25

You can understand why we share gold with Henches, but you cant understand why we share it with Heroes?

I think you lost yourself in your logic somewhere. The two are exactly the same thing in principle.

We share loot and gold with the AI so that people cant go AI farming and collect vast amount of gold or increase rare drop rates. It doesnt matter whether that AI is henches or Heroes.

Understand?

Compare the two...

1) Solo farming where you get 100% of the drops yourself, but its alot harder without support.
2) AI team farming where you get 100% of the drops yourself and its alot easier because the AI support you.

Which one is going to be alot easier? Obviously everyone in the game will use option 2, but the result would be a vast increase in gold and even more unbalanced market.

Not to mention (if they did this), the unfairness to those without Heroes who dont own NF. NF would become the farming game of all 3 campaigns.

Its also a way to maintain the realism of the game and to balance out the use of AI over real humans. We have to share loot when in human parties, so obviously we should share loot in AI parties. Otherwise everyone would use AI and no one would PUG.

As for your agruement about having to modify your Heroes and it costing you gold, so we should be compensated. You dont have to mod them, and finding them max equipment isnt hard. Just use drops. Their armor increased automatically too.

Sorry but its just a very bad idea and youre obviously more bothered about making gold then actually playing the game.

/notsigned a million times over

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Originally Posted by Coloneh

you people saying "they should get their share" dont understand the mechanics of heros. YOU have to buy everything for them. they dont use their money.

Drops, drops, drops, drops, drops, drops, drops, drops, drops, drops.... etc etc etc etc etc

You are not forced at all, to buy your heroes anything!!

As mentioned, their armor automatically increased.
You can use dropped weapons or secondarys (rare and greens too).
You can use dropped or salvaged runes.

If you choose to buy them stupidly expensive, highly modded, rare weapons and runes that is your choice. But you dont need to do that for them to be effective.

Players who do that, are more bothered about making them look cool then effective.

MithranArkanere · Feb 20, 2007, 02:47 PM // 14:47

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Originally Posted by Meat Axe

Simple solution to this problem: don't buy them weapons. Give them a weapon drop that you would have sold to the merchant for 50g if you have to. Or give them some of the bonus items if you have access to them. Anyway, you're forgetting one very very good bonus you get for leveling up heroes: hero skill points. The skills you buy with hero skill points get added to your skill list as well. To me, the benefits of the heroes far outweighs the small portion of gold that they get a share in.

Nope! You win hero skill points by increasing levels in Lightbringger and Sunspear Titles. And that is the only actual way available.

Well. They are NPC, but you still need to equip them.
There is just an easy way to fix it. When a drop is tagged to an Hero. Add an adidtional 50% chance that the drop 'bounces' to a player.

For gold, just give heroes half a share. So they get 1/[party size]/2 instead of 1/[party size], and the rest is shared between players and henchmen.

Master Sword Keeper · Feb 20, 2007, 03:14 PM // 15:14

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there would be a lot more 4-man Heroway farming groups out there, including a 55-based group that could rape the entire Underworld and FoW without taking breaks.

Very very true. Extremely unfair. But think to this player's P.o.V. If they are the type who doesnt know how to farm let alone get over 10k in a month..I think it only fair. Veteran Players can reach 100k in a few days (depending on activity) When I first started playin It was barely 500g an hour just doing quests. I almost gave up, but yea sharing gold with heroe's is a bit over-done.
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